GeneRally v1.10 - BUG REPORTS

[Bouncebackability]

Rejected. This will, after investigation, require a disproportionate amount of work to fix, when compared to the benefit, so we won't be fixing it for the foreseeable future.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes
Not necessarily a bug per se, but i hadnt noticed it before in 1.05 (i had to check) and i dont know where else to post it...

When adjusting a 'slider value' in the track properties in track editor. pressing the up arrow on the keyboard, decreases the value, pressing the down arrow, increases the value. Logic would say its the other way around

Expected Behaviour
Up arrow on keyboard should increase the value

Reproduction

1. open Track Editor
2. select track properties
3. click on one of the slider bars
4. Press up arrow key on keyboard to adjust value of slider; value decrease

[andrew2209]

Already reported. Reference.

[OlafK]

Rejected. AI behaviour without an AI line is undefined. We may consider defining this behaviour at some later point, but it will not be addressed for the foreseeable future.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
AI drivers rush for the bottom-left corner when there's no AI-line.

Expected Behaviour
The cars should rotate in place like they do in 1.05, or at least they shouldn't do such random thing.

Reproduction
Start a race with at least one AI driver on a track without AI-line.

[Trigger Happy]

Cannot reproduce this issue. Tried on a new WS255 track and could successfully/accurately import a lap-record AI line. If you want this pursued more, please provide an example .trk with which this occurs.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes
In TE ideal line of track's record lap cannot be fully imported in tracks WS255, parts of the imported line are broken. It maybe happen in all WS200+ world sizes, but I didn't tested it.

Expected Behaviour
Lap record's line should be importable as AI line correctly in all WSs.

Reproduction

1. Open TE
2. Open a track WS255, which has track record (a ghost lap)
3. Press button import AI line and choose the track

System Configuration
in my previous report

[Bouncebackability]

Fixed. No longer occurs in v1.10b.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
the start lights now show when viewing a replay.

Personally for me this is annoying as i like to take new track screenshots with the cars lined up, but the lights now intrude. Possible to change it back? such a small detail i know

Expected Behaviour
start lights should not show in replay.

Reproduction

1.Begin race
2.within first few seconds, view replay of the start.
3.at this point i would like to take a screenshot, but the lights get in the way

[Jim451]

Targeted for next version. Thanks.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
Can't chose controls when I plug more than one gamepad

Expected Behaviour
The game should allow me to chose which button I'd like to use but when I click it is locked on "Joy 2: B1", it works perfectly when I plug only one gamepad.

Reproduction
Plug more than one gamepad, open the game
1.Option/Drivers
2.Select a human driver
3.chose controls

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows Xp
Hardware: AMD Phenom II X4 , 2x2gb DDR3 RAM, Nvidia GeForce GTS 450, 1TB SATAII HDD

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Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
Here's the problem: only the first controller is being recognized if I try multiple controllers. The issue might be that I have 4 identical Xbox360 controllers and a receiver for those. They do work fine in other games, except FIFA10 (FIFA10 only supports two controllers..). So, it's an issue concerning controllers with identical information, except index or just multiple XInput controllers. I don't have other controllers to test the problem, but at least with these controllers the problem is reproducible. XInput controllers are compatible with DInput when it comes to normal buttons at least.

Expected Behaviour
You should be able to use all the different controllers.

Reproduction
1. Buy 2x Xbox 360 controllers and a receiver for PC.
2. Try assigning buttons on the second controller.

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows 7 x64
Hardware: Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHz, 2x2gb DDR2 RAM, ATi Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E w/ CCC 10.12, Xbox 360 controllers and a receiver.

EDIT: Just saw the post above and it seems that this is already reported. Well, the post makes look like it was a gamepad issue having a stuck button, but I can confirm this. Altho in my case the game behaves very differently: it won't accept any buttons from the second controller.

EDIT2: Tested with one Xbox 360 controller and one Microsoft Sidewinder, working just like described in the earlier post: it appears as the second joystick had a stuck button. Works fine if I try alone with either of the controllers. This is really a deal breaker for the multiplayer experience 1.05 offered. Also tested with 1.10b, nothing has changed so far.

[Alex]

Fixed. No longer occurs in v1.10b.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
Cursor doesn't disappear when racing.

Expected Behaviour
The game should hide the cursor as soon as the race starts.

Reproduction

1.Select any track
2.Race on it. The cursor doesn't disappear unlike V1.05.

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows XP
Hardware: eMachines 370 w/ 55GB hard drive, Intel Extreme Graphics card, 1.80 GhZ Intel Celeron Processor and 256MB DDR.

[OlafK]

Rejected. This will not be fixed as it isn't a bug. Please do not delete AI line segments to make larger segments in your AI line. The AI use a 'look ahead' algorithm to look several segments ahead to predict the need for turning and, as such, when long segments are present (caused by deletion), this disrupts the behaviour.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Don't know
AI drivers behaves strangely on the attached track.

Expected Behaviour
AI drivers should race following the AI line.

Reproduction

1. Start a race on the attached track with at least one AI driver
2. Watch as AI(s) run into wall

[The MNZ]

Cannot reproduce this issue. Launching GR multiple times yielded same-size windows.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes
Opening(not running) two GR's at the same time the first was very small

Expected Behaviour
Two GR'S opened at the same time be equal

Reproduction
1-Resolution: 1280x1024
2-Quadruple-click on GR.exe
3-Look to the marvelous bug

[Alex]

Fixed. No longer occurs in v1.2.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes (edited by James)
When racing on a new track that doesn't have any checkpoints, the race automatically finishes so you can't beta test your tracks that don't have checkpoints. Even when setting it to 100 laps, the lap counter goes furiously and the race finishes within 5 seconds.

Expected Behaviour
You should be able to race on incomplete tracks without any checkpoints fine.

Reproduction
1. Create a new track in TE.
2. Do not add any checkpoints.
3. Save it.
4. Try and drive on it. It doesn't matter about AI or amount of laps, the race finishes ASAP.


System Configuration
Operating System: Windows XP
Hardware: same as before

[The MNZ]

Rejected. This will not be fixed as it isn't a bug. This is part of legacy support for older filesystems and their naming limitations. We may consider changing its behaviour in the future, though.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes(in all versions)
Not necessarily a bug, but it agravate many GR drivers and trackmasters.
When you name a track with more than 12 characters, appears something as 6 first characters in capital, a ~ and a number. Example: SPAFRA~1

Expected Behaviour
Increase the number of letters which could be putted on track name without it happen. Or at least when the trk name has more than 12 characters, show only the first 12.

Reproduction
1-Found any track with more than 12 characters on name(example: Concrete Park by SineD1301 - http://forum.gene-rally.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1714)
2-Launch GR.exe
3-Found the track and note the bug.

[The MNZ]

Targeted for a future version. Thanks.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
The numpad numbers also don't work on driver naming.

Expected Behaviour
Name works with caps capitals(already noticed) and with numpad numbers.

Reproduction
1-Create a Driver
2-Use a numpad number on name and see nothing
3-Do the same thing with the alphanumeric ones, they works.

[XYY]

Targeted for a future version. Thanks.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
GeneRally uses (AFAIK) the american keyboard layout

Expected Behaviour
GeneRally uses (in my case) german keyboard layout

Reproduction

1. Create a new driver
2. type in a bit text
3. you'll get text as it would come from a Querty-keyboard
btw would it be possible to choose the keyboard layout regulated by your language?


System Configuration
Operating System: Win XP SP3
Hardware: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz, 3328 gb RAM, nVidia GeForce 9800 GT 1024 MB, 500GB HD

[The MNZ]

Rejected. This is not a bug, but also occurs in v1.05. No AI changes were made in v1.10 but AI improvements are being looked into for the future.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes (edited by James)
A 200 AI is worse than a 100 AI in ovals.

Expected Behaviour
AI skill will not be affected by track layout.

Reproduction
1-Download the Maciej1's F1 2010 cars.
2-Create 5 AI's, skills 20, 63, 63 100 and 200, using different secondary colors.
3a-Race on future design's Wentworth Mile with all using Ferrari car.
3b-Use 40% tyre wear, 5% fuel consumption, 100kg fuel mass and 20% damage.
4-Note than the 100 AI won the 200 AI..

Trk file deleted by Trigger Happy, next time don't put here tracks or cars without permission of author to do it - it's disallowed sharing like in other cases. Use e.g. topic/personal site/ToM link, where the track is available or send it via mail to James.

Answer by Manzur: Ok, sorry. So here are the ToM link: http://tom.gene-rally.com/results.php?month=9&year=2008

[vax]

Rejected. You're loading a 1.10 track in 1.05. Double-check you extracted your files correctly.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
I can't see new objects

in TrackEditor

and in GeneRally

System
Operating System: Windows XP
I don't know any more

[Genetleman]

Rejected. Not a bug, it does run on all versions of Windows 7 (tested on major versions, 32-bit and 64-bit) - check your system configuration.

Problem
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No

Generally 1.10 won't start under Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

[Krisu]

Intended behaviour. This colour-change was deliberate.

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? No
Observed in v1.05? No

The armco barrier is blue in game

Expected Behaviour

Armco barrier should be grey as it was in v 1.10

Reproduction

Open any track in v1.10b that includes an armco barrier

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows XP Home 32 bit

EDIT: Heard that the colour was changed, so that it isn't a mistake. This post may be useless then, anyway the blue barrier looks UGLY

[SGroe]

Intended behaviour. Please pause the race before switching applications.

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? ?
Observed in v1.05? No
Race continues instantly after switching back from other application to GeneRally.

Expected behavior
Race will be paused.

Reproduction
(1) Start GeneRally in full-screen mode
(2) Start a race
(3) Switch to other application with [ALT] + [TAB] or to desktop with [Windows] + [D] (don't pause the race)
(4) Switch back to GeneRally
(5) Game continues instantly

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Cannot reproduce this issue. Multiple tests don't exhibit this problem on test system.

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No
Application switches from full-screen mode to windowed mode after pressing [ENTER] (see reproduction for error requirements)

Expected behavior
Don't switch to windowed mode

Reproduction
(1) Start GeneRally in full-screen mode
(2) Start a race
(3) Pause the race
(4) Switch to other application with [ALT] + [TAB]
(5) Switch back to GeneRally with [ALT] + [TAB]
(6) Use [ENTER]
Problem: Application switches from full-screen mode to windowed mode.

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows 7
Hardware: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.66 GHz; 256 MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300; 1GB DDR 2; German keyboard

[TuomoH]

Fixed. No longer occurs in v1.10c.

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Don't know
Observed in v1.05? No
Sometimes when you try to view the replay after the results screen pops up the cars are stationary and the saved game doesn't contain the replay either - the file is as large as the Autosave.sav. Haven't managed to replicate it consistently, and it has only happened during a long championship. If I go to the replay before the results screen then there are no problems, even after the results screen appears.

Just to add to TuomoH's report. I had this occur once in 1.10, just to clarify, However i could not replicate it, and have no understanding of what caused it at the time.

Expected Behaviour
The replay should be viewable no matter when you try to watch it.

Reproduction

1. Start a championship with multiple races.
2. Drive the race, wait for the results screen to appear.
3. Try to watch the replay.

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows XP Media Center Edition
Hardware: Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz, 1GB RAM, ATi Radeon XPress 200 series.

[The MNZ]

Fixed. No longer occurs in v1.2.

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Don't know
Observed in v1.05? Don't know
When a track has only one checkpoint, crossing through it has 5 or more laps value.

Expected Behaviour
Tracks with only one checkpoint do nothing when i cross it. Or at least has one-lap value.

Reproduction
1-Create a track with only one checkpoint.(I suggest to mark this checkpoint with something like a gate or a pedestrian bridge)
2-Start a race on it.
3-Cross the checkpoint.

[Lukeno94]

Targeted for next version. Thanks.

Problem:
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? No

It is impossible to use the "_" character in replay names - pressing shift plus - does nothing but add extra dashes. The same issue occurs in folder creation in-game.

Expected behaviour
You should be able to use the "_" character

Reproduction
1: start any random race
2: Save replay, try typing in "_" - you can't.

Problem 2:
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? N/A

In some situations, the in-game sound will not keep playing when switching to another program (seems to happen mostly with iTunes). Programs that this conflict occurs with will have the sound cancelled even if you switch to another program inbetween (in my case, from GR to Firefox 4.0 to iTunes)

Expected behaviour
Sound should continue playing no matter what program you're using

Reproduction:
1: Running in windowed mode, start a race with AIs
2: Open iTunes, or switch to an existing window with iTunes in. Some other programs may exhibit this behaviour also.

[Herbal]

Rejected. This is a known bug with SDL. We are considering releasing a 'fixed' SDL.dll, recompiled from source by a third-party, that fixes the issue along with v1.2.

Problem:
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Not sure, but I think, it's not
Observed in v1.05? No

While playing on a track, and moving out to Windows, mouse locks to top left corner.

Expected behaviour
Cursor should be able to be moved.

Computer stats:
Asus Eee (Mobile Intel 915GM, Synaptics pointing device, Intel Celeron M 900MHz), Windows XP SP2

Reproduction:
1. Start a race
2. After mouse disappears, press Start button
3. You will be in Windows, but the mouse does not move, hard to get back to game

[egamad]

Intended behaviour. Your 1.10b shot has a wider aspect ratio than the 1.05 one. I don't know what caused that, but under the circumstances the zooming feature works as indented. (It zooms out enough so that you don't lose visible area at the bottom. This means you're necessarily going to get more visible area at the top.)

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? not relevant
Observed in v1.05? No

Fulscreen (and possibly other unusual view angle/zoom) tracks in GR 1.10b aren't displayed as they should be or as they were displayed in GR 1.05. That means the experimental zoom feature doesn't work properly.

Expected Behaviour
Fulscreen tracks from GR 1.05 should retain their POV in GR 1.10b.

Reproduction

1. Launch GR 1.05 game
2. Select any fulscreen track (my FAT#01 used on screenshots)
3. Start the race
4. Repeat the above steps in GR 1.10b and see the difference in POV

System Configuration
Operating System: Windows 7 32-bit
Hardware: ATi Mobility Radeon HD 3470 256MB, screen resolution @1440x900 (both screenshots were taken on the same laptop but produced different picture dimensions).

[OlafK]

Rejected. Pit crew information would unnecessarily increase file-size and won't be included for the foreseeable future.

Problem
Observed in v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.10? Yes
Observed in v1.05? Yes
Pit crew state is not saved in replays.

Expected Behaviour
Replays should contain info about position of pit crew members.

Reproduction

1. While racing go to the pits
2. Select quick replay and watch how pit crew members are operating on ghost car from the beginning of the race
3. Save that replay and load it from menu
4. Watch how pit crew ignores the car when it comes for pit

[Lukeno94]

Targeted for a future version. Already known - not something of high priority, but we'll look into it for the future. Thanks

Problem
Observed in v1.10/v1.10b? Yes
Observed in v1.05? N/A
People can bleed without being hit

Expected behaviour
If the car does not hit a person, they should not bleed

Reproduction
1: Select a track where people are behind walls, I use Juniper A for my example
2: Grind on the left wall of the bridge past the person
3: Blood is visible