Herbal's Hotlap Haul Season 1 [HL] [login]

[kuba]

Where pack?

If you'd read first post carefully:

you need just a fresh GR copy to join, as we're going to use the originally attached Formula car.

So: http://gene-rally.com/download/latest/ and:

Download HERE the training track!

[Herbal]

I join
Mszostus
POL
mszostek21@wp.pl
GRPL Team

Where pack?

Welcome! Do you remember on your password from RoC? If not, I may send you again an email.

About gamepack: tracks will be always published at the deadline starts, so no definite packs are attached. To join you need just a fresh 1.10 copy of GR and you're ready.

Thanks kuba for the explanation!

Since it's still unclear to me, is it ok to exploit the checkpoints at Pedra Furada or should I use the whole layout?

You're on your own. So if you've found a shortcut, use it.

[Richie]

Hi guys ! I had played for a long time some years ago in some competitions of Generally (such as F1 cup) and I would like to take part to this season as a comeback to generally's competitions.
Nickname : Richie.
Nationality : French.
Email : sbuono@wanadoo.fr
I'd like to create the team Rocket Tactical and I may be able to convince a friend to join the team later.

[Herbal]

Hi guys ! I had played for a long time some years ago in some competitions of Generally (such as F1 cup) and I would like to take part to this season as a comeback to generally's competitions.

Welcome between us, Richie! Login infos sent to your mailbox.

[Alonso]

Since it's still unclear to me, is it ok to exploit the checkpoints at Pedra Furada or should I use the whole layout?

You're on your own. So if you've found a shortcut, use it.

Really? I know that the rules allow it, but is this a right way?

[michael66]

Hey guys, I would like to join team Rocket Tactical

[Richie]

Hey guys, I would like to join team Rocket Tactical

Glad you could come !

[Herbal]

Hey guys, I would like to join team Rocket Tactical

And what about a proper signup? I don't know neither your mail, nor your nationality!

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HHH Season 1, Round 2
Login open: 6 May 2012, 10:43
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bird 6 May 19:12.12
mszostus 9 May 20:37.33
majortom 10 May 22:44.39
alonso 11 May 0:49.6

Login text file indicates 4 started races. You still have one and a half day to race!

[michael66]

There you go !

Nickname : michael66
Nationality : French.
Email : mduforest.superaguri@gmail.com
Team : Rocket Tactical

[Herbal]

There you go !

Nickname : michael66
Nationality : French.
Email : mduforest.superaguri@gmail.com
Team : Rocket Tactical

Alright, login infos have been sent.

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HHH Season 1, Round 2
Login open: 6 May 2012, 10:43
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bird 6 May 19:12.12
mszostus 9 May 20:37.33
majortom 10 May 22:44.39
alonso 11 May 0:49.6
tuomoh 12 May 9:35.20

12 hours until deadline and I've got five races in my mailbox. Do not forget to run your race!

[Buka]

People can cut 10 (!!!) seconds at Pedra Furada. And those who don't cut will loose all the chances to have good overall result. It's just way too much unfair and I don't really want to take part in this.

And I won't.

[Herbal]

People can cut 10 (!!!) seconds at Pedra Furada. And those who don't cut will loose all the chances to have good overall result. (...)

That's true. As I'm new at these kind of hotlap compos, and I'm still wanting to keep a "laissez faire", I've tried to experiment the limits of cutting/unfair advantage. This time I'll keep times slide as they are, but for next rounds I promise there will be smaller shortcut possibilities (2-3 seconds maximally), and these tracks will be relatively rare. How about this solution, guys?

[akouk]

I suggest to cancel Pedra Furada results (although such a beautiful track), and don't permit shortcutting at all for next rounds.
I don't know if trying to find a shortcut with the track tools is any fun to you guys, but it sure is boring to me and it takes time as well.

[kuba]

I like that:

Shortcutting and leaving track is allowed if checkpoints permit it.

It is clear rule, not like i.e. in F-Astor Formula Series where Scorpion is giving penalties without any evidence.

I don't know if trying to find a shortcut with the track tools is any fun to you guys, but it sure is boring to me and it takes time as well.

I see it as part of strategy, you have tracks for training so you can analyse it before login and it's not taking more than 5 minutes.

[Bird]

I also apply for cancelling the results of Pedra Furada. This competition wasn't made for tactical games like selecting the best way for driving a track (I think). Herbal, you should modify tracks, if the checkpoints were extremly bad set like at this track.

[Herbal]

Results of second round







Third round

Download HERE the training track!
Click HERE
Login time: 13 minutes


Track name: Rollington Short
Author: Herbal
Length: 1227 m


Track name: D'nalsi
Author: Kory Miller
Length: 445 m


Track name: Etmeseud
Author: Osten
Length: 830 m


Track name: Suigintou Bay PA
Author: Haruna
Length: 481 m

[Emil Patanen]

5th place, very nice!

Btw, I should have 11 points in team standings, not 9. And you have posted an old tips & ideas picture

[Buka]

I also apply for cancelling the results of Pedra Furada.

Absolutely agreed!

[TuomoH]

I also apply for cancelling the results of Pedra Furada.

Absolutely agreed!

I don't agree. The rules were known for everyone, the shortcut was discussed before the deadline so people knew about it. And now the results have already been published. Why should that track be cancelled now?

Congrats to the fast people btw.

[FogoRJ]

Even if the rules allow , I would not feel right to use such a device. I decided to follow the path of the track normally.

[akouk]

Even if the rules allow , I would not feel right to use such a device. I decided to follow the path of the track normally.

That's how I'll race too! No shortcuts for me either
Maybe have two classifications 1. those who shortcut, 2. those who don't.

[Herbal]

Maybe have two classifications 1. those who shortcut, 2. those who don't.

That might be a good idea.

EDIT No.1: here are results without Pedra Furada.
Gainers were with shortcuts: kuba (+8), Herbal, Buka (+6)
And who followed original path: Alonso (-6), FogoRJ (-5), akouk, Reh (-3)

Note: I still consider the previous results as official!

EDIT No.2: login files have been set, you may race from now on. Good luck!

[Alonso]

Even if the rules allow , I would not feel right to use such a device. I decided to follow the path of the track normally.

That's how I'll race too! No shortcuts for me either

with the guys.Hopefully Herbal will choose for the next rounds tracks that have minimum or no possibilities to shortcut.

And of course congrats to Richie.He would have won it anyway.Great drive

[Trigger Happy]

BTW I just hope, that this will open eyes to some people, what point of rules against shortcuts is (lwhen a flaw or a need to have checkpoints in a shape allows some unintended routes to be faster in overall) and what isn't (if somebody has or hasn't one tiny wheel on or behind even tinnier 1px wide side line).

And as these 2 also cases show, neither extreme seriousness nor extreme benevolence are optimally serving to the for-fun factor, the best is some instinct for middle path.

But just my .

[Bird]

I think, that there is a mistake with the login files. That are the tracks of Round 2. Or maybe I selected the wrong login link?