Boy, I just noticed in the penalty rules: Late submission is excluded from the race and suspended for 2 races? Isn't this a little harsh? Usually it's either a penalty that will drop them several places down the order, or BOP. I've never seen anyone suspend someone for late submissions. It tends to happen several times throughout a competition season to various drivers, and most all drivers I'm quite sure had no intention of cheating when their submission came late. Sometimes people's internet can be slow, and that causes late submissions on occasion, and suspending them because their internet is slow just isn't right. I also don't see a definition of what a late submission will be. What is the login time? One last question What is the definition of cutting? That can be especially had to define on an oval, so can we get some clarification on that rule?
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puttz wrote:Boy, I just noticed in the penalty rules: Late submission is excluded from the race and suspended for 2 races? Isn't this a little harsh? Usually it's either a penalty that will drop them several places down the order, or BOP. I've never seen anyone suspend someone for late submissions. It tends to happen several times throughout a competition season to various drivers, and most all drivers I'm quite sure had no intention of cheating when their submission came late. Sometimes people's internet can be slow, and that causes late submissions on occasion, and suspending them because their internet is slow just isn't right. I also don't see a definition of what a late submission will be. What is the login time? One last question What is the definition of cutting? That can be especially had to define on an oval, so can we get some clarification on that rule?
Ah, looks like I was too Fórmula One in the rules... shouldn't have done that. Login time will be 30 minutes... I don't understand why should I be too harsh on that, right? I will change the rules right now, and I invite you to read the rules later on
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"YOU'VE GOT WILLY JAKES!" - Johnson, Ahmed
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"How do you come back from a performance like this? The answer is YOU DON'T!" - NFL Blitz 2001 commentator
By the way, I assume the email that you must send files to is the same for signing up, correct? And also the files that must be sent are the standard screen, track, and save files required by most compos?
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puttz wrote:By the way, I assume the email that you must send files to is the same for signing up, correct? And also the files that must be sent are the standard screen, track, and save files required by most compos?
Yes!
"He's FAT!" - Steiner, Scott
"YOU'VE GOT WILLY JAKES!" - Johnson, Ahmed
"Huuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH" - Penzer, Dave
"How do you come back from a performance like this? The answer is YOU DON'T!" - NFL Blitz 2001 commentator
As login will be hosted by NAGRCA, I have now uploaded the login files. If you have any tech problems, direct them to me. Login!
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I have mixed feelings about penalties - wouldn't be better to change disqualification to BOP? IMHO disqualification is what you get for doing something against the rules with premeditation, and BOP is when you made mistake, even huge one. Also I would replace warnings with time penalties. Separate issue is "Driving under 100% game speed" - can we even do that? Aren't we using GR 1.2 and in that version we can't change game speed?
Kuba, I second that. Btw these things are of rare reasons, which can prevent me from joining otherwise OK-looking compo (same matter in Marcinho's tourers IIRC).
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I have mixed feelings about penalties - wouldn't be better to change disqualification to BOP? IMHO disqualification is what you get for doing something against the rules with premeditation, and BOP is when you made mistake, even huge one. Also I would replace warnings with time penalties. Separate issue is "Driving under 100% game speed" - can we even do that? Aren't we using GR 1.2 and in that version we can't change game speed?
What do you suggest then?
Merged double reply from Tue May 28, 2013 10:20 pm:
Sorry for the double post, but the Kansas round is already OPEN!
"He's FAT!" - Steiner, Scott
"YOU'VE GOT WILLY JAKES!" - Johnson, Ahmed
"Huuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH" - Penzer, Dave
"How do you come back from a performance like this? The answer is YOU DON'T!" - NFL Blitz 2001 commentator
Think about it this way as most other compo organizers think: if the offense is most likely due to an error or forgetting, then DQ is too much. DQ is ok only if it's deliberate cheating.
TuomoH wrote:Think about it this way as most other compo organizers think: if the offense is most likely due to an error or forgetting, then DQ is too much. DQ is ok only if it's deliberate cheating.
How about the driver be in a mini-trial? He has 1 day to defend himself from the mistake he made. If it's quite clear it was just a mistake, he will be just warned, but only if its his first mistake... from second onwards, it's DQ already. If the driver doesn't defend himself, he will be immediately DQed. What you think?
"He's FAT!" - Steiner, Scott
"YOU'VE GOT WILLY JAKES!" - Johnson, Ahmed
"Huuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH" - Penzer, Dave
"How do you come back from a performance like this? The answer is YOU DON'T!" - NFL Blitz 2001 commentator
Why my idea is stupid? Just because was I who had it? Give me a break, I've seen this kind of rule before here. I've tried to be impartial with all of you, and that's what happens when I'm open for suggestions. You're just saying this just because it's me... Bollocks!
"He's FAT!" - Steiner, Scott
"YOU'VE GOT WILLY JAKES!" - Johnson, Ahmed
"Huuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH" - Penzer, Dave
"How do you come back from a performance like this? The answer is YOU DON'T!" - NFL Blitz 2001 commentator
I don't it's due to who you are. The thing is that this game is supposed to be fun and having mini-trials for small mistakes sounds the very opposite of fun.
There is now a login link for Cleveland, since I will be out of town and unavailable to do anything with the server for the next week. My apologies to bruno, this will also mean delayed results for the first round.
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Deadline is tomorrow, I wanted begin to practice, but got stuck - I don't know which car I should use. Pack contains 10 cars, there was mention something about cars made by FRUKIScze, can I get some clarification?
kuba wrote:Deadline is tomorrow, I wanted begin to practice, but got stuck - I don't know which car I should use. Pack contains 10 cars, there was mention something about cars made by FRUKIScze, can I get some clarification?
Your car is #15, and for this race you need to use "Indy Oval"
EDIT: I had a disastrous Kansas race. I was going fine and well, and I've reached 9.84, but then, I hit the wall and my car went to the other side of the wall and couldn't complete because of login time. I will race tomorrow for Cleveland, and hope it will be a better race.
"He's FAT!" - Steiner, Scott
"YOU'VE GOT WILLY JAKES!" - Johnson, Ahmed
"Huuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH" - Penzer, Dave
"How do you come back from a performance like this? The answer is YOU DON'T!" - NFL Blitz 2001 commentator
What is the definition of cutting? That can be especially had to define on an oval, so can we get some clarification on that rule?
Btw these things are of rare reasons, which can prevent me from joining otherwise OK-looking compo (same matter in Marcinho's tourers IIRC).
