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It's alive, guys! Otherwise there'd have been a "we aren't working on this anymore, we promise, it's not going anywhere" blog post a month ago.

Come on, Luke, Areen and other traitors like you, are you really so naive that you think that anyone (apart from RobertRacer99 and FRUKIScze) believes your propaganda?

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It's dead, guys. Otherwise, there'd have been a "we are still working on this, we promise, it's just going slowly" blog post a month ago.
Luke, weren't you supposed to leave this community? Then why on earth are you coming back to here, if you don't have anything else to say than some negative nonsense like that?

Areen wrote:
Developer project without news are dead.
Your statement just doesn't make any sense.

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Like at the Räbinäs 2003/2004? :?
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It's really sad, but what can we do, right? :ashamed:
You two! Get back in the line! :D Don't lose your hopes just because of what those traitors say. There isn't any reason to believe that GR2 won't be finished as long as James doesn't state anything opposite.

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I'm not a traitor. I simply look at things as they are and also by my experience. Hype is over so as a cool watcher I simply explain my point of view. Isn't it a good idea to have your own opinion about it?


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Yeah, that was a bit too harsh...

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Well, i will leave this without comment, because i would say something wrong once again :rofl:
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Emil Patanen wrote:
RobertRacer99 wrote:
Like at the Räbinäs 2003/2004? :?
FRUKIScze wrote:
It's really sad, but what can we do, right? :ashamed:
You two! Get back in the line! :D Don't lose your hopes just because of what those traitors say. There isn't any reason to believe that GR2 won't be finished as long as James doesn't state anything opposite.


I was just confused from the ''Traitors'' :D Sure I still belive on Development of GR2. :)

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RobertRacer99 wrote:
Emil Patanen wrote:
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Like at the Räbinäs 2003/2004? :?
FRUKIScze wrote:
It's really sad, but what can we do, right? :ashamed:
You two! Get back in the line! :D Don't lose your hopes just because of what those traitors say. There isn't any reason to believe that GR2 won't be finished as long as James doesn't state anything opposite.


I was just confused from the ''Traitors'' :D Sure I still belive on Development of GR2. :)


Count me on the "confused from the 'Traitors'" train. :D

No, seriously, I won't label anyone "traitors" because that's too much. Sure that the Kickstarter failed, but hey, the bright side is that they continue the project as a hobby so we will get GR2 anyway, although that we will have to wait longer... :)

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I'm not a traitor. I simply look at things as they are and also by my experience. Hype is over so as a cool watcher I simply explain my point of view. Isn't it a good idea to have your own opinion about it?
It doesn't look like you're just expressing your opinion, when you're saying things in a way like they were facts. And you had said your opinion already in this thread few pages ago, so we already know your opinion and there isn't any need to say it again. Now, when you repeated saying your opinion and in such a strong way, it makes it look like you're trying to convince other people also to believe in your opinion.

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Yeah, that was a bit too harsh...
So, it was okay for those, who don't believe in the development of GR2 anymore, to express their opinions in a strong way, but when I do the same thing it isn't okay anymore?

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Well, i will leave this without comment, because i would say something wrong once again :rofl:
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lel, I just commented :doh:
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refl, you also spelled lol wrong :mrgreen:


RobertRacer99 wrote:
I was just confused from the ''Traitors'' :D
Rendy wrote:
Count me on the "confused from the 'Traitors'" train. :D
With traitors I mean people, who keep posting over and over again the same pessimistic nonsense about developers giving up their work and GR2 not seeing daylight and are attacking against developers, which makes it looks like they are trying to convince others to give up the hope and they are raising the pessimistic atmosphere around here. And they are doing all that only because of one ridiculous reason (= they believe that no news means that the development has stopped). That's exactly the opposite of the way how a community member should act, that's what makes them traitors.

We should be giving our support to developers by transferring positive energy to them by having an optimistic atmosphere around here, not trying to shoot their project down by letting all the negative energy come out to here. :D If someone thinks that GR2 will not be finished, then it would better to stay quiet than spread his pessimistic attitude around here.

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Emil Patanen wrote:
FRUKIScze wrote:
Well, i will leave this without comment, because i would say something wrong once again :rofl:
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lel, I just commented :doh:
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refl, you also spelled lol wrong :mrgreen:


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onfg, you spelled rofl wrong. :rofl:

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RobertRacer99 wrote:
Emil Patanen wrote:
FRUKIScze wrote:
Well, i will leave this without comment, because i would say something wrong once again :rofl:
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lel, I just commented :doh:
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refl, you also spelled lol wrong :mrgreen:


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onfg, you spelled rofl wrong. :rofl:


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wtv Robert, you spelled omfg wrong :doh:

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Please stop this stupidity. Else someone will have to take action. :shake2:

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Yes, let's not go back to this nonsense. If they are working, they are going to let us know when they've gotten some major noteworthy work done. If they aren't, well, we aren't any worse off than we are now. :doh:

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I'll only believe, that there isn't any development for GR2, if the developer are saying that in the Developer Blog. ''(Very)Slow development is better then no development.'' :)

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Emil Patanen wrote:
It doesn't look like you're just expressing your opinion, when you're saying things in a way like they were facts. And you had said your opinion already in this thread few pages ago, so we already know your opinion and there isn't any need to say it again. Now, when you repeated saying your opinion and in such a strong way, it makes it look like you're trying to convince other people also to believe in your opinion.


It would be pretty nice. :) Admit that something is clearly dead and move on. We simply didn't achieve the KS goal so James simply dropped it because of lack of cash and came back to regular work. I would do the same.


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Firstly, sorry, Areen, if I was too aggressive towards to you in my 1st post, even though I shouldn't have aimed it at you :sorry: It was more Luke and some others, who have moaned too much in this thread, who's posts caused some anger. Your post just happened to be there in wrong place in wrong time. Also, I had a bad weekend and it came out here a little bit.

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It would be pretty nice. :) Admit that something is clearly dead and move on. We simply didn't achieve the KS goal so James simply dropped it because of lack of cash and came back to regular work. I would do the same.
Well, if I remember right, developing GR2 was never dependent on money & Kickstarter :) The reason, why they tried to collect money was to make the development faster, not to make the development possible, which means that in this case, when KS failed, they still continue developing the game. They are just doing it slowly.

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It would be pretty nice. :) Admit that something is clearly dead and move on. We simply didn't achieve the KS goal so James simply dropped it because of lack of cash and came back to regular work. I would do the same.

I'd point out James' small confession from previous page:
James wrote:
... let me say something: I really, really, really, really, really wish we'd never announced GeneRally 2. Why? Because this was fun ...

Always James had tended to act this way, during working on 1.05, now during developing GR2, even back while on RSC - staying more silent than people would love about things while working hard on them. It's his nature. But still somebody occurs from time to time to claim, that this his habit of silence is proof of a resignation, dropping etc. He showed so many times, that such implication is simply groundless thought, that such comments became truly boring reading for me, yours is no exeption.

I might think his way of acting towards public isn't the most fortunate PR strategy, but I cannot see a point, why I should think it's a bad sign towards anything related to continuation of development. I simply think about present situation, that he chose doing it now in a way, which he finds to be a fun for him. If so, it'd sound to me like a fair choice.

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Emil, that's not what a traitor is. Not even close. People are allowed to voice their opinions here... but they shouldn't have to worry about being personally attacked like that. The reason I come back is that I still hope I might be proven wrong... and then people like you go and prove me 100% right. GG.


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Who knows, maybe he has decided to not say anything until he has a full alpha ready because of what happens on this thread every time an update is posted and then a couple of months pass.

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Lukeno94 wrote:
Emil, that's not what a traitor is. Not even close.
Well, maybe it was a bit too hardly said. Emotions took control instead of sense, and I didn't think so much, what I was saying.

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People are allowed to voice their opinions here... but they shouldn't have to worry about being personally attacked like that.
Nothing wrong in saying your opinion, but, if you want to avoid getting attacked by anyone, maybe it would be better idea to say your opinion nicely and not in a provocative way.

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The reason I come back is that I still hope I might be proven wrong... and then people like you go and prove me 100% right. GG.
Could you tell in what matter you want to be proven wrong? :) I'm not really sure, what you meant, so I can't comment on this. And what means GG?

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Who knows, maybe he has decided to not say anything until he has a full alpha ready because of what happens on this thread every time an update is posted and then a couple of months pass.
That could be a good thing to do. I don't understand, why they even started to write that blog in the first place. What's the point in showing the features of the game beforehand, because we will see them in the finished game anyway? And, if there's some important news, they could have informed about them here and in the home page of GR website. I have been against James' decision to write the blog ever since he started it. They should have been concentrating on developing the game and not in writing some strange blog.

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Saying "it's dead" is not provocative unless you want it to read it in that manner. I left the community due to the inability of certain people who are very much fans of the GR 2.0 direction to accept that other people may have major issues with the new direction, and those people were attacking the ones they disagreed with. I was hoping that I'd be proven wrong both about the lack of interest from the devs, and of the community being a bit more mature towards those who hold different views; I see no evidence of the former, and a little of the latter.


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hi, just wanted to know if something moved.

Woaw, a new whole page!!! Ok, arguing against each other...

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Saying "it's dead" is not provocative unless you want it to read it in that manner.
What you said was clearly provocative. Because you knew that, what you were going to say was clearly annoying and your only objective was to annoy people with that post. James had already stated that he was going make blog posts less often than earlier, so people knew that they need to be more patient, when waiting for new blog posts. Still some were coming here to say that no news means that the development had stopped. They were reminded about what James said. And then again someone comes to repeat the same thing about no news coming only few days after. It's pretty annoying to have to open the thread to read the same thing again even though there's no reason to believe that no news means that the development has been stopped. And then it happens again, when you come here to repeat the same nonsense, only few days later. If you use your brains, you understand that it's starts to get very annoying. And you've understood that it's annoying. You knew it, because you're a troll, and being annoying is exactly what you want to do.

And you didn't say just "it's dead". You said
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It's dead, guys. Otherwise, there'd have been a "we are still working on this, we promise, it's just going slowly" blog post a month ago.
1. You said "it's dead". You're stating as a fact something that cannot be proven true. So, you're lying. And "dead" is a very serious word, which shouldn't be used carelessly in any occasion you want. At least not in times like these!! :|
2. You said "guys". In other words you're suggesting other people to believe that the project isn't going forward, even though you have no evidence about this.
3. You claimed that the lack of posts from developers prove that there isn't any developing going on anymore. The lack of posts just doesn't prove anything. Also, if there would have been posts from them, it still wouldn't prove that they are working on it. They could as well make a blog post once a week, and then suddenly on October 28th 2016 make blog post, on which they say "REFL, LEL, we never worked on that stupid game, we were just pulling your leg with all those fake blog posts. And, ONFG, you believed it all the time! Duck you, you trucking grassbowls! Have an awful birthday, Emil-Turso (you duckly sun of a beach), BRIX (you cupid stick bed) and boost (you knocking mothsucker)!"
4. You said that there would have been such blog post a month ago, which would have been about one and half month after latest blog post. They clearly stated that they are making less blog posts from now on and less often, so you knew that it isn't yet time for a new blog post, so you were talking nonsense there again.
If this isn't enough to claim that your post was provocative, then what is?

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the community being a bit more mature towards those who hold different views;
If you'd like to have a mature discussion, maybe it would have been a good idea for you to be more mature in first place?! If you would have nicely just said "I believe that they aren't working on the game anymore. At least it looks like that, because there haven't been any posts from the developers." Then we could have discussed about this in a neutral way and we would have skipped this whole episode. But you didn't even want that, and we all know very well why.

Also, the thing that you come here only to say bad things about developers makes it look like you're only wanting to make people feel bad and annoyed by spreading lies like that. This and everything above just proves that you have started a career as a troll.

And there's no reason to blame whole community about something, when only one stubborn Finn has been arguing with you. And I want to say that for me it is okay, if you keep trolling forever and forever, because I can also continue this endlessly, this is actually quite funny now, when I've got into good speed :)

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hi, just wanted to know if something moved.

Woaw, a new whole page!!! Ok, arguing against each other...

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Hi, nice to hear that you came to look, what's happening here. :)

Thanks for telling us that we are arguing here. If you wouldn't have said it, I would still think that we are playing darts here...

Sad to hear that you're going back to hibernate. It would be nice, if you joined the arguing. The more we are the funnier it will be. :)

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This is starting to get ridiculous. If I were James, I'd be really depressed at what's going on in this thread and even less inclined to tell anyone about progress. Mods, maybe it's time to use some :modpower: ?

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No, Emil, you assigning intentions to me is what is annoying. I voiced my opinion that it is dead, nothing more, nothing less, with the lack of blog posts being used as evidence as to WHY I think that. "It's dead, guys" is just a figure of speech that you've assigned far greater purpose to than it actually had. And the fact you're now picking at Glen for very little reason further undermines your position.


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Luke, you've misinterpret meaning of "different point of view". It seems like you feel satisfaction from the hypothetical GR2's failure - and that's not the point of view, it's idiocy, considering how much soul and time you contributed in GR1. Actually you are acting exactly like Kremlin quinta columna in Ukraine. There are a lot of well-respected people in Ukraine who are linked with Russia and who lived pretty well on Russian money year ago. But when all the s**t began to happen in Ukraine, they were cut off the Russian feeder. So now they acts exactly like you do: Ukraine (GR2 in your case) is dead and so on.

GR v.1.10 came out of blue sky, as far as I remember. So I suppose that the GR v.2 will come out the same way. Yes, it may take some time, of course. And it's our duty to keep the community alive until then. Your negative posts harm this goal.

I don't mean to offend you. I understand that, probably, you've grown up and your vision on some points of your life, including the game, have changed, too. But please respect the feeling of other people.

And no, it's not about "It is dead" post, it's about your attitude.

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GR v.1.10 came out of blue sky, as far as I remember. So I suppose that the GR v.2 will come out the same way. Yes, it may take some time, of course. And it's our duty to keep the community alive until then.


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