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Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:30 am
by bduddy
The fact is, the Rabinas have assigned their rights to James and co, and it's their right to do whatever they want. So there's nothing we can do about it other than have a bunch of long and pointless arguments, and make a lot of people mad at each other.
If the current dev team is not willing or able to put the time and effort required to make GR2 now that there's no funding, I completely understand and I would hope that everyone else here would as well. I would only ask that they notify all of us, and in particular the Rabinas, so that alternative arrangements can be explored and/or we can have some closure. If they are... well, I already went over this, but even brief updates would be appreciated by the community. No deadlines necessary, no promises, just quick notes...
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:49 am
by Glen
bduddy wrote:so that alternative arrangements can be explored
Like generally 1 with online mode? Everyone would be happy I think.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:36 pm
by Lukeno94
Buka wrote:Luke, you've misinterpret meaning of "different point of view". It seems like you feel satisfaction from the hypothetical GR2's failure - and that's not the point of view, it's idiocy, considering how much soul and time you contributed in GR1. Actually you are acting exactly like Kremlin quinta columna in Ukraine. There are a lot of well-respected people in Ukraine who are linked with Russia and who lived pretty well on Russian money year ago. But when all the s**t began to happen in Ukraine, they were cut off the Russian feeder. So now they acts exactly like you do: Ukraine (GR2 in your case) is dead and so on.
GR v.1.10 came out of blue sky, as far as I remember. So I suppose that the GR v.2 will come out the same way. Yes, it may take some time, of course. And it's our duty to keep the community alive until then. Your negative posts harm this goal.
I don't mean to offend you. I understand that, probably, you've grown up and your vision on some points of your life, including the game, have changed, too. But please respect the feeling of other people.
And no, it's not about "It is dead" post, it's about your attitude.
I take no satisfaction from GR 2.0 failing. I would like it to succeed, but I am not happy with the way the entire thing has been run, from start to finish; I believe I have every right to say as such, particularly when objectively bad decisions have been made by the devs (and no, this isn't me getting into the debate of F2P vs P2P again). I also believe I have every right to say that I don't trust the devs, particularly when we know for a fact that James has failed in big roles in the past (RSC). I don't think the comparison with GR1.10 is valid, because no-one had any idea that was going to happen bar a very select few people; everyone knows GR2.0 was/is being worked on. I also really don't like being compared to a Russian sympathizer, although I do understand what you actually meant by that.
And Glen, I think a GR1 version with multiplayer mode would go a long way to satisfying people. I don't see the current devs doing it though, unless they officially can GR2.0; it would take up too much time and resources, and would also reduce the playerbase of any eventual GR2.0 release.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:15 am
by Warlex
Glen wrote:Like generally 1 with online mode? Everyone would be happy I think.
I don't know what's going on here recently, just that the development is, if not dead, quite slow. I'm not here to talk about it, just about Glen's last post that I've quoted up here.
That would be, in my opinion, f**king awesome. I believe the best part of this game is the capacity to make cars and tracks and create everything you want, and I think GR2 would make it harder for people with less knowledge of these stuff to do it.
Anyway, just saying. Maybe you already had this discussion and had a solution for it, and I'm being pointless here.
Peace.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:25 pm
by Glen
Warlex wrote:I'm being pointless here.
You'r not pointless for me
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:58 am
by FRUKIScze
Warlex wrote:Anyway, just saying. Maybe you already had this discussion and had a solution for it, and I'm being pointless here.
You'll be never pointless in this thread. It's always good to tell everybody your opinion anytime IMO
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:53 pm
by jefcam
What happened here? "silence is golden" and that's it no more updates!
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:55 pm
by Glen
jefcam wrote:What happened here? "silence is golden" and that's it no more updates!
Must be rich with so much silence.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:23 pm
by masa
Glen wrote:Like generally 1 with online mode? Everyone would be happy I think.
IMO..
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:40 am
by Marcinho
I agree too, but I think that making online for gr1 is more difficult than making gr2.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:04 am
by puttz
At this point the discussion is kind of moot, because neither one looks like it will happen. Mainly because the code to GR1 is in the hands of the same people who are (were?) working on GR2. I doubt they will add online to GR1, they'd rather start from scratch (which they started on) with a new game rather than try to add online functionality to the old game.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:13 pm
by jefcam
I cant understand the WHY, the developers have not issued a statement regarding the future of this project, being positive or negative.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:53 am
by jefcam
Can someone please remind me what had happened with the source code of generally. To whom did the Rabina brothers gave the code? What was the agreement between them?
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:05 am
by TuomoH
Don't remember the details but the source code was handed to James to be used with his team and his team only.
As for the silence, the last time I spoke with James, he was very disheartened about all the negative comments basically every post and decision the developers had made got here. Interestingly he got more positive support outside the community, even though one might imagine that this community should be the most supportive place to be.
Anyway, as far as I know, the development is still on but James has chosen to keep media silence until there is something major to tell.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:10 am
by puttz
That may be a wise decision as every update seems only to bring whining about stuff. That being said it would be nice if he could confirm that development is still ongoing and GR2 has not been abandoned.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:57 am
by Bouncebackability
TuomoH wrote:Anyway, as far as I know, the development is still on but James has chosen to keep media silence until there is something major to tell.
Can't say I blame him
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:05 pm
by jefcam
Don't remember the details but the source code was handed to James to be used with his team and his team only
1. I agree 100% that this generally community without pointing fingers to anyone took a negative approach to the project. If the fund raising project failed it was not just the fault of the dev team.
I hope and would be glad that the project is still in progress.
Regarding the source code I think it was handed to James and his team to use for the general benefit of all the community. So one day I hope that something interesting will pop up.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:34 pm
by Black Rebel
I get sad everytime I see no news here... I was one of those really hpoing to participate in the sequel and see it happening one day.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:13 pm
by jefcam
I do not see a reason why the developers of GR2 are finding it hard to make a 1-liner and say that the project will or not continue.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:36 am
by RodSk8Punk
If we are not getting GeneRally 2 anymore, couldn't we at least get GeneRally 1.3 or something? Add some new objects on the track editor, make some new tracks using them and you're done.
I wonder how hard it would be to add some sort of feature that associates palettes with tracks, so you didn't need to switch it manually for a night track/sunset track/moon track etc. Tracks themselves could have OTHER tracks associated with them if you wanted to make variables to it:
(oh, this track works with morning, sunset, cloudy and wet palettes, but night requires this different one, with lights painted on) or (this is the "Club" layout, this is the "GT" layout, etc.)
If the same worked for cars, it would be nice. It would be a good way to organize stuff.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:39 pm
by Mad Dan
That honestly seems like a rather reasonable idea. Perhaps the development team could try to think about it
.
Just a few new objects or anything...
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:45 pm
by Trigger Happy
If I understood it well, the decision for sequel was reasoned among other points by opinion of developers, that it's easier to expand GR by more features and other stuff by making a sequel game than by updating in boundaries of the old code.
jefcam wrote:I do not see a reason why the developers of GR2 are finding it hard to make a 1-liner and say that the project will or not continue.
Because they think they said it enough clearly in their so far last blog post and see no reason to repeat already said? I'm not saying it's either good or bad approach, but only how I feel the matter.
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:49 pm
by RobertRacer
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:10 pm
by Ricardolosso
Hey guys, anyone has any news reagarding GR2....i've been out a couple of years but now I'm back, still nothing changed as I saw on the website of dev. page
Re: Developer Blog
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:19 pm
by puttz
Nope, there's been complete silence. Either they are doing their work in the dark now, or GR2 is just vaporware
