ToM discussions thread

Post by **Trigger Happy** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:59 pm

Posts moved to keep nomination topic clear.

BTW thanks for help, Tuomo.

Post by **Trigger Happy** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:39 pm

I got one small idea about ToY results - there are very often big ties because of not much votes for lot of tracks in one poll - sometimes more than 5 tracks share same position. What would you think, if we'd sort the tied tracks in order of their received ToM votes in monthly election since 2011? And only if two or more tracks would receive same number of ToY votes and same number of ToM votes, they would share same place. Is it enough fair? What do you think, please?

Post by **Buka** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:52 am

Ivo, this system may work but it should be improved. I explain.

Track A and Track B has got the same number of votes in ToY election. Track A has got 3 votes in ToM June and Track B - 4 votes in ToM April.According to your idea Track B should be higher in ToY. But in ToM June there were 21 voters so Track A has got 14% of possible votes and in ToM April - 32 voters so Track B has got only 12%. So why in this case Track B should be higher?

The easiest solution in avoiding big ties in ToY should be higher number of voters.

Post by **Trigger Happy** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:07 am

Buka wrote:Track A and Track B has got the same number of votes in ToY election. Track A has got 3 votes in ToM June and Track B - 4 votes in ToM April.According to your idea Track B should be higher in ToY. But in ToM June there were 21 voters so Track A has got 14% of possible votes and in ToM April - 32 voters so Track B has got only 12%. So why in this case Track B should be higher?

That's why asked if it'd be fair ''enough'', based on fact, that number of voters is approx. same each month wit few exemptions, so the number of similar cases wouldn't be high. But f course you're right, precisely about these % I was thinking too, but didn't propose it with fear, that it would be too complex to be clear in results. It would be surely more fair, but maybe it would work too.

Buka wrote:The easiest solution in avoiding big ties in ToY should be higher number of voters.

I don't think so, if there is about 200 tracks in one poll and we have 5 votes, the increase on about 30 would help, but not much.

GeorgM · Post by **GeorgM** » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:46 pm

Nice idea.
IMO ordering by the number of ToM-votes in % ist the fairest method. Also, technically it's no problem to realize.

Post by **XYY** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:43 pm

Alex wrote:Grand Glade by Bel

That one was actually posted already in september, so...

Bel · Post by **Bel** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:28 pm

XYY wrote:
Alex wrote:Grand Glade by Bel
That one was actually posted already in september, so...

Actually, no hehe

It was released Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:09 pm GMT

(Edit by Trigger Happy: nomination kept in Nomination topic)

Cheers

Post by **XYY** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:30 pm

I guess that's due to the different time zones - for me it looked wrong

But if you released it yesterday...

Post by **Lukeno94** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:39 pm

Well, if it was released in GMT at that time, then it is correct.

Post by **Trigger Happy** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:45 pm

GMT 11:09 pm, BST 00:09 am and CEST 01:09 am. And for us is key the GMT. Correct?

My GeneRally 2 profile · Post by **TuomoH** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:05 pm

Correct.

ToM rules wrote:It was published between the 1st of the month in question 0:00 GMT and the last day of the same month 24:00 GMT.

Post by **XYY** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:33 pm

I'm sorry for confusing you then

Post by **Lukeno94** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:46 pm

That rule is quite strange anyway - what's the difference between 0:00 and 24:00?

Post by **Trigger Happy** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:57 pm

Moved.

Should it be ''since 00:00:01 to 24:00:00''?

Post by **Lukeno94** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:04 pm

Yeah, that would make sense. Especially as, currently, you could technically nominate a track for two elections.

egamad · Post by **egamad** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:23 pm

The 00:00 means zero hours, zero minutes, which is acceptable, as it actually is a valid time form (says nothing about seconds).

My math is really rusty at this point, but the way I picture it: if we take one day as a "closed interval" from (00:00-24:00), then it makes perfect sence (I don't know how to properly translate that, it means that 00:00 and 24:00 are not actually a part of the interval). 00:00 and 24:00 are those "points" in time, that cannot be properly measured, as they exist only in theory.

They can be, however, percieved as very close approximations of 00:00:00,0000001 and 23:59:59,9999999999 for instance, so it's really not wrong if it stays that way.

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:12 pm

24:00 as a time of day does not exist. Midnight is 00:00

BRIX · Post by **BRIX** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:55 pm

All tacks from December are awesome!
It was really hard for me to pick my favourite 5.

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:57 pm

Brix wrote:It was really hard for me to pick my favourite 5.

a lot of tracks! And we have to choose one!

egamad · Post by **egamad** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:59 pm

Actually, Glen, 5 is the number of tracks you're allowed to vote for.

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:04 pm

egamad wrote:Actually, Glen, 5 is the number of tracks you're allowed to vote for.

Oh! I will Vote for 4 other in that case!

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:34 pm

Herbal wrote:Hmap Garage by Glen

Herbal, my Hmap Garage isn't a track, just a showroom

You could nominate me if there was a heading "showroom of month"

My GeneRally 2 profile · Post by **TuomoH** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:56 pm

Glen wrote:Herbal, my Hmap Garage isn't a track, just a showroom

It is a .trk file posted to Tracks subforum, hence it is a track, and surely deserves a nomination being such innovative track.

Post by **Trigger Happy** » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:56 pm

DuklaLiberec wrote:Mini Offroadies Pack by Emil Patanen

Unfortunately a pack cannot be nominated, pick an individual track, please.

Bouncebackability · Post by **Bouncebackability** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:23 pm

@Ivo, dont forget the pack of the year, it could be nominated there

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